john denver is in harwood tonight getting ready for -- no, john is in denver. >> rest in peace, john denver. >> great john, rocky mountain high. an adventurer flying around in one of those planes. >> 201,000 was the last -- >> adp was 201 and we got 90. >> we got adp on top of everything else, john. we had a horrible number last time. i don't really know, it really is different this time if you're able to tie the continuing bad jobs number to the prior president, then it really doesn't matter. it's like all bets are off compared to all those metrics we used to use where if it's above 7% or 8%, the incumbent has a problem. not if people believe it wasn't his fault. i'm not sure any of this really matters that much. >> well, but remember a couple things about that, joe. first of all, the unemployment rate's only one indicator, there are a lot of other things, the market, household -- mark zandy talks about households being in a lot better shape. that's one. the second is what we've seen in our polling is that people who are inclined to vote for obama are kind of reconciling their views